{"id":12553,"date":"2023-10-30T00:00:53","date_gmt":"2023-10-30T06:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ovationup.com\/benjamin-kaplan-podcast-copy\/"},"modified":"2024-04-30T13:19:31","modified_gmt":"2024-04-30T19:19:31","slug":"gj-hart-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ovationup.com\/gj-hart-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Leading and Evolving Successful Restaurant Brands with G.J. Hart"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"background-color: rgba(255,255,255,0);background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px;border-color:#e2e2e2;border-style:solid;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-justify-content-center\" style=\"max-width:1248px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_3_4 3_4 fusion-flex-column col-shadow\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\" style=\"background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;padding: 2% 1% 1% 1%;\"><div id=\"buzzsprout-player-13864689\"><\/div><script src=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/887458\/13864689-leading-and-evolving-successful-restaurant-brands-with-g-j-hart.js?container_id=buzzsprout-player-13864689&player=small\" type=\"text\/javascript\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:75% !important;margin-top : -15%;margin-bottom : 0px;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 2% !important;padding-right : 1% !important;margin-right : 2.56%;padding-bottom : 1% !important;padding-left : 1% !important;margin-left : 2.56%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:75% !important;order : 0;margin-top : -15%;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 2.56%;margin-left : 2.56%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-0{width:100% !important;order : 0;margin-top : -30%;}.fusion-builder-column-0 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}<\/style><\/div><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-1{ padding-top : 0px;margin-top : 0px;padding-right : 0px;padding-bottom : 2%;margin-bottom : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-1{ padding-right : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}}<\/style><\/div><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-2 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"background-color: rgba(255,255,255,0);background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px;border-color:#e2e2e2;border-style:solid;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-justify-content-center\" style=\"max-width:1248px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-1 fusion_builder_column_4_5 4_5 fusion-flex-column\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\" style=\"background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1 fusion-text-no-margin\" style=\"font-size:22px;line-height:1.48em;font-family:&quot;Poppins&quot;;font-weight:500;margin-bottom:25px;\"><p style=\"text-align: center;\">Learn how to evolve while sticking to your core with the CEO of Red Robin.<\/p>\n<\/div><div style=\"text-align:center;\"><span class=\" fusion-imageframe imageframe-none imageframe-1 hover-type-none\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" alt=\"Alex Canter Blog Pic\" title=\"G.J. 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G.J. Hart, current CEO of Red Robin, breaks it down for us, stressing the importance of remaining true to the essence of the brand while testing changes to keep it attractive to customers. 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We were using a hybrid team approach at Red Robin and I think that sounds great when everything is working and everybody&#8217;s there. But going back to having a server have less tables and can give more attention to those tables is going to work.&#8221;<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"\" style=\"--fontsize: 22; line-height: 1.5; --minfontsize: 22;\" data-fontsize=\"22\" data-lineheight=\"33px\">Who deserves an Ovation in the restaurant industry?<\/h2>\n<p>1. <a style=\"text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/hillstone.com\">Hillstone Restaurant Group<\/a><\/p>\n<p><i>&#8220;They&#8217;ve been around forever and I admire them. They do incredible work, they&#8217;re super consistent and they know what they do really well. They&#8217;re on it and I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ve ever been to one of their restaurants and it&#8217;s been disappointing.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>2. <u><a href=\"https:\/\/www.texasroadhouse.com\">Texas Roadhouse <\/a><\/u><\/p>\n<p><i>&#8220;Granted, I was there for a long period of time and was a part of growing that brand, but they do an incredible job of really making every guest feel important and they do that by maintaining three table sections and they do it really really well. &#8220;<\/i><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-3{width:80% !important;margin-top : 0px;margin-bottom : 20px;}.fusion-builder-column-3 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 0px !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 2.4%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 2.4%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-3{width:80% !important;order : 0;}.fusion-builder-column-3 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 2.4%;margin-left : 2.4%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-3{width:100% !important;order : 0;}.fusion-builder-column-3 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}<\/style><\/div><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-4 fusion_builder_column_4_5 4_5 fusion-flex-column\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\" style=\"background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;border-width: 2px 0 0 0;border-color:#eaeaea;border-style:solid;padding: 4% 0px 0px 0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-4 fusion-text-no-margin\" style=\"color:rgba(74,78,87,0.66);margin-bottom:20px;\"><p><span style=\"font-family: var(--body_typography-font-family);\"><span style=\"font-style: var(--body_typography-font-style,normal); letter-spacing: var(--body_typography-letter-spacing);\">For more, check out a Red Robin near you or <\/span><\/span>the Red Robin <u><a href=\"https:\/\/www.redrobin.com\">website!<\/a><\/u><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-4{width:80% !important;margin-top : 2px;margin-bottom : 0px;}.fusion-builder-column-4 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 4% !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 2.4%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 2.4%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-4{width:80% !important;order : 0;}.fusion-builder-column-4 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 2.4%;margin-left : 2.4%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-4{width:100% !important;order : 0;}.fusion-builder-column-4 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}<\/style><\/div><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-4{ padding-top : 0px;margin-top : 0px;padding-right : 0px;padding-bottom : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}<\/style><\/div><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-5 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"background-color: rgba(255,255,255,0);background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px;border-color:#eaeaea;border-style:solid;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-justify-content-center\" style=\"max-width:1248px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-5 fusion_builder_column_5_6 5_6 fusion-flex-column\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\" style=\"background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-5 fusion-text-no-margin\" style=\"color:rgba(74,78,87,0.66);margin-bottom:20px;\"><p>Thanks for reading! Make sure to check out the whole episode, as well as other interviews with restaurant gurus by checking out \u201cGive an Ovation: A Podcast For Restaurants\u201d on <u><a href=\"ovationup.com\/podcast\">ovationup.com\/podcast<\/a><\/u> or your favorite place to listen to podcasts.<\/p>\n<\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-title.fusion-title-1{margin-top:10px!important; margin-right:0px!important;margin-bottom:-15px!important;margin-left:0px!important;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-title.fusion-title-1{margin-top:10px!important; margin-right:0px!important;margin-bottom:10px!important; margin-left:0px!important;}}<\/style><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"font-size:18px;margin-top:10px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:-15px;margin-left:0px;\"><h3 class=\"title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;font-size:1em;color:rgba(0,0,0,0.42);--fontSize:18;--minFontSize:18px;line-height:1.3;\">More Episodes<\/h3><\/div><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-5{width:83.333333333333% !important;margin-top : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;}.fusion-builder-column-5 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 0px !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 2.304%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 2.304%;}@media only screen and (max-width:1024px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-5{width:83.333333333333% !important;order : 0;}.fusion-builder-column-5 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 2.304%;margin-left : 2.304%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:640px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-5{width:100% !important;order : 0;}.fusion-builder-column-5 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}<\/style><\/div><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-body .fusion-flex-container.fusion-builder-row-5{ padding-top : 0px;margin-top : 0px;padding-right : 0px;padding-bottom : 0px;margin-bottom : 0px;padding-left : 0px;}<\/style><\/div>\n<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":12554,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"content-type":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[18,36,17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12553","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-business-tips","category-featured","category-podcasts"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v23.8 (Yoast SEO v23.8) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>G.J Hart | Leading and Evolving Successful Restaurant Brands | Ovation Podcast<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"What does it take to lead successful brands like Red Robin, Torchy&#039;s Tacos, California Pizza Kitchen, and Texas Roadhouse? 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